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Drizzt
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 8:15 am |
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i love you guys, and god knows ive smoked a forest of the stuff myself, but you silly little ones need to know pot is seriously bad for your health,
it affects your short term memory as well as your learning abilities. it affects the part of your brain in charge of motivation and reward,(in other words, it makes you a lazy motherfucker) your chance for a heart attack is 4 times greater one hour after smoking a joint, it causes respiratory problems of course like smoking, it can cause burning and stinging of the mouth, or a heavy cough duh. youre right dk pple do not smoke as many joints as cigs but they tend to inhale more deeply and hold it in longer, which makes pot, puff for puff anyway, more dangerous. studies have also shown that pot triples your chance for cancer in the head or neck.
thc impairs your immunity system, which increases the chance of infections and even tumors. every single study of pot use shows clearly that pple who use it are more likely to suffer from depression, short attention span, impaired memory and learning skill. most of the studies i have read however show that the impairment is not permanent and will improve in time if you quit smoking. but if you do it daily, well then youre screwed, dummies all the time.
it is even possible that your baby will be a dumbass if you abuse pot.
it makes you a lazy bast, theres no way around it, you make excuses instead of do what you need to do, no matter how well you do in life, it probably could have been even better if you didnt smoke pot, it can be addictive and any drug addiction is bad obviously.
every person i know that smokes it, thinks they have their shit together fine, but they look like an ass to everyone else. im not putting smoking pot down like i said, i have smoked my share and your share and his and hers as well, but well if you think it isnt bad for you you're just a dumbass sorry.
my dad's best friend smoked it daily, he died when he was 29 years old got a huge tumor in his head. coincidence? i dunno i was only 10 but it sure is possible that the pot did it isnt it? since it is a fact shown in numerous studies that it increases your chances of tumors, i believe it is not far fetched to say that smoking pot killed my dads friend. (who was also my friends dad)
i dont smoke anymore and doubt i ever will, for one my job prohibits it, also i dont really have the money to be buying an ounce a week considering that i have a family, it stinks, unless you smoke it then of course you love the smell, its illegal, and most non pot smokers look down on people who smoke even if they are good pple thats just how it is.
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Emo
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 8:28 am |
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Drizzt wrote:ithc impairs your immunity system, which increases the chance of infections and even tumors. every single study of pot use shows clearly that pple who use it are more likely to suffer from depression, short attention span, impaired memory and learning skill. most of the studies i have read however show that the impairment is not permanent and will improve in time if you quit smoking. but if you do it daily, well then youre screwed, dummies all the time.
Yeah... I don't doubt that government ran tests will provide the answers they want.
Simple as this, if you don't want to smoke pot, don't. If you have a problem with it, that's your own choice, but a few of us enjoy smoking weed, and a few of us seem to be abit more informed than others (funny how it's the ones who do smoke weed lol  )
So why don't drop all this who's right and who's wrong bullshit, and smoke a f***** joint.
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Kigger
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 9:41 am |
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goverment tests are useless, the pot the giverment grows is bunk weed, the thc contet of goverment weed hovers at about 3%. while some decent home grown can averge 12-18% thc. i doubt anyone here knows more about drugs than i do. I have been in impatient rehab 9 times. I dont smoke pot no more or do the other things i used to but i know what i am talking about. lets just say i have gotten a dui and was completely alcohol free
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ianegg
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 10:23 am |
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Have you got any links to these studies Drizzt? I'd be interested to read up on them. I haven't done any research on this stuff for a couple of years now, so my info could be a bit out of date. I've read a lot about possible links between cannabis and tumors, but never seen a conclusive study. I've also read about the apparent cancer causing properties of crisps (potato chips) and margarine.
I'd say there's no correlation between his tumor and weed. I've known 2 people to have tumors in their heads, one of them was a devout Catholic who would never even go near the evil stuff and the other was a 5 year old girl. Just because there's a possibility it can increase the risk, doesn't mean that it was the cause, especially with a sample size of 1.
You say you can't buy an ounce a week since you have children. (Ignoring job  ) Well an ounce a week would be overkill, but I don't see the problem for someone with kids to smoke a little weed, as long as they do it in moderation, away from their children, and probably not prior to times they should be looking after them. I'd say the same for alcohol and tobacco though. Do you drink or smoke cigs at all Drizzt?
EDIT: If we're playing with anecdotal evidence here; One person I know thinks he has been pretty messed up by smoking weed, (I think it's more his underlying personality, some negative aspects of which are more pronounced when he's stoned) but everyone else I can think of who smokes weed regularly is doing a whole lot better at life than me, and I've hardly smoked it for years. In fact my life was a lot better when I was regular weed smoker.
EDIT2: Yes I agree it's better not to smoke or drink at all with kids, I just don't see a problem with anything in moderation.
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Drizzt
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 12:12 pm |
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like i said, i dont have anything against it, but come on, how can anyone be so blind as to think its not bad for them.
only a pothead would say its not bad, because tbh, since ive quit, i see that heads live in a totally different world than non smokers do.
but i agree i see noting wrong with it especially in moderation, my point was only that it is ignorant to say its not bad for you, and if you truly believe that, youre probably too immature/stupid to be smoking it responsibly*.
although the tests i mentioned werent done by the government, but by experts in the medical profession, im pretty sure its safe to say that the government prolly owns you on knowing about drugs kigger. 
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 12:43 pm |
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ya drizzt u right i quit somking december of last year and potheads deffintly live in a diferent world. When i go and see my friends that still smoke i'm like damn did used to not move this much. all they can seem to do is watch tv, play video games and smoke day in day out
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Rippa
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 12:46 pm |
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Duncan Kentar wrote:I'ts like amazing to see how misinformed people are about the health risks of weed. People say the tabbacco companies hide the truth and lie about smoking, but every weed smoker doesn't know jack about what weed really does. Weeds not as harmful to most people as cigs cause most people don't smoke 10 joints a day. Not to mention that their is no hieghtening of anything when your stoned, weed is a downer, it makes you sluggish, and mellow. Anyone who says that's not true hasn't ever really been stoned, and probably never learned how to take a hit.
Personally, it's your choice, and none of my business. I have smoked weed, and I probably will again sometime, but for me it's a take it or leave it thing. I really don't want to smoke daily, or hang out with daily tokers. I've never met a daily weed smoker that I thought was a successful person. Most of them could hardly pay their rent, where frequently evicted, and alot of them started just living on the street.
I agree with this you can't smoke 7 - 10 blunts a day and be successful because you are basically high all the time I've done this while in high school I was just havin fun but I worked as well I went out I smoked blunts normal kid activities. I know for a fact weed will make me not want to do homework or study so that's why I quit and plus if you was one of those daily tokers and from america it can get costly but theres nothing wrong at taking a hit for a right situation. To many memories.  Weed always made me feel mellow but I never was tired though or got munchies like other people. Now if I try weed one hit will knock me out so just 40 ounce of some st ides and a cig will do me good if you tell me there's soemthing wrong with malt liquor I will shoot you..
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 1:06 pm |
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I happen to enjoy my own "different world"
Cherry: Haha Malt Liquer. I remember buying a 45 ounce of Colt 45 for 2$ everyday to go with a smoke with my "ghetto" buddies at age 17. Magical brew for being so cheap! The old man at the store never carded anyone... good times but, I'm very lucky I didn't get myself killed or in legal trouble. Now 10 years later I can't really drink the stuff without getting a killer headache, so Budweiser it is.
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Duncan Kentar
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 8:21 pm |
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one hit was always enough for me, I had weed smokin friends that would bitch cause I could cash out a bowl, with one hit, but then sometimes they'd bitch that I wouldn't take another.
Basically smoking weed isn't something that I think is really cool, or makes me feel a certain way, that I want to feel. It can be a bit of fun, when you're with friends, and hanging out for a few hours, but usually it just made me extremely lax, I remember not wanting to move any part of my body, and getting really sleepy. It once took me 2 mins just to motivate myself to lift my arm up, grasp a glass of water in front of me, and take a drink, and I was very thirsty.
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Emo
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 9:27 pm |
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haha.. shit.. if you guys knew the amount of weed Gunner, Anadivine and I smoke..... lmao..
Regardless.. weed moderated, is great fun. I use it as a social thing, go out and smoke a joint with some friends, have a good time, and enjoy "High"school, as it's truely the only time we can smoke weed like this and have little to no reprocussions.
You guys notice the difference in age vs difference of opinion..? All the one's who are against it, are either older people who already had their fun with it, and are leading too complex of lives to continue at it, or young teens who have never touched it.
Sure, it attacks your motivation, but what teen is motivated to go to highschool anyways..? (and incase you're wondering, no, not me.) Even if I smoked no weed, I still pull the same B average I pull off now.
You're all just tryin to make us grow up too fast.. LET ME SMOKE MY CHRONIC.. ANY f***** STYLE

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 10:10 pm |
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It is not illegal to talk about weed, well for as long as you dont say you have any, cops wont do shit, I know, I've talked about weed with my friends standing infront of a cop ON PURPOSE to see if he'd do anything, f*** no... now if I said I smoked it in that conversation, the cop prolly would have been all over me.
I might not smoke weed... *cough* BS *cough* okay maybe A LITTLE! lol.... *cough* BS *cough* okay only second hand weed...
In some states, their is a legal amount for PERSONAL USE!
Yes it's true, but not alot of states... And in Canada, I think it's illegal here, but I don't think they care...
In my opinion, weed, it's fun... *edit, what i had here was probably illegal and im not going to say it xD... lets just say, female weed is good for 1 thing... seeds... now that bits not illegal, but if u got common sense, you know where im going... xD*
If your smoking weed in a state or country where their is a legal amount for personal use, and its in your car, if they pull you over, and its still legal for personal use, they will take the joint from you, and you can only guess at what they do on their way back to the cop shop... *cough* Smokes it on the way to cop shop *cough*... lol...
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Emo
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 10:23 pm |
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It's not legal here, but it damn well nearly was in Vancouver. Cops very often will be harder on someone who is j-walking rather than someone who is "j" smoking. I have only ever been hassled by a cop one time for smoking weed, out of the like 50 times I've been talked to by one about it.
Weed is awesome, for those who don't agree, that sucks. I for one, will take advantage of this great plant that was put here.
You may like tomato's, yeah well, I like marijuana.
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Duncan Kentar
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 11:12 pm |
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I want to try salvia actually, it's perfectly legal, and you go on a 10min trip. I think that would be something to experience once, but I doubt I'd do it more than that.
And all I'm sayin bout weed is just don't let it control you. I know Ashes is too smart for that, but I seen some people spend money, they really don't have just so they could light up. Mary might not be addictive by nature, but some people just have no self control. Other than that light up and have fun. Just don't drive right after.
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Buddha77
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 12:50 am |
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Emo wrote:haha.. s***.. if you guys knew the amount of weed Gunner, Anadivine and I smoke..... lmao..
I think we can all figure that out...
Regardless.. weed moderated, is great fun. I use it as a social thing, go out and smoke a joint with some friends, have a good time, and enjoy "High"school, as it's truely the only time we can smoke weed like this and have little to no reprocussions.
Its good that you have fun. And lots of people drink/smoke in high school because its cool, and makes you feel good.
But life is not ONLY about having fun.
The question is... how much fun do you want in the future? You might handle the weed now (honestly I have no idea about your life... if you have problems or not and/or how much the drugs makes those problems go away) but in the future its easy to develop an addictive personality, and thats not a good thing, especially when it comes to drugs.
You guys notice the difference in age vs difference of opinion..? All the one's who are against it, are either older people who already had their fun with it, and are leading too complex of lives to continue at it, or young teens who have never touched it.
I just think its funny how some people twist facts, just to defend themselves. I respect honesty like Drizzt... saying its not wrong, but still not good for you. Pro-weed talk is just... pot head talk.
Sure, it attacks your motivation, but what teen is motivated to go to highschool anyways..? (and incase you're wondering, no, not me.) Even if I smoked no weed, I still pull the same B average I pull off now.
Youre a smart dude, I am sure.
Its not about fun, its not about grades, its not about high school. Its about what drugs makes your head get used to. No good things, thats for sure. And you know these things already, but you choose to focus on the pros about weedsmoking. (makes it a lot more fun, doesnt it?)
You're all just tryin to make us grow up too fast.. LET ME SMOKE MY CHRONIC.. ANY f****** STYLE
No, we are just telling facts about weed.
You can smoke how much you want. Its your life.
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ianegg
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 7:43 am |
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Buddha, I agree 100% that everyone's like would be a whole lot better in some respects if they avoided all forms of drugs, alcohol etc. You'd also be limiting your horizons and there are certain things you can experience that will change your life forever and make view the world in an entirely different way, letting you see beauty that you would have never known was there.
In Holland, they say anything that comes from the earth is legal. I agree that anything that was created by God or evolution should be embraced. Man made substances are an entirely different matter.
Duncan Kentar wrote:I want to try salvia actually, it's perfectly legal, and you go on a 10min trip. I think that would be something to experience once, but I doubt I'd do it more than that.
And all I'm sayin bout weed is just don't let it control you. I know Ashes is too smart for that, but I seen some people spend money, they really don't have just so they could light up. Mary might not be addictive by nature, but some people just have no self control. Other than that light up and have fun. Just don't drive right after.
I think the crux of the argument here is that weed, like everything else, is something you have to be sensible with. Moderation in all things.
I just don't like people practically proclaiming it the root of all evil, when there are other legal things that mess up people's lives in a worse way.
As for Salvia Divinorum, well it's a very strange one. Only reason it's legal though is pretty much because governments overlooked it. First time I tried it, I woke up 5 mins later pissing myself laughing about Postman Pat. It's very much like entering an intense dream state - the average person doesn't really remember what happened until they've tried it a few times and get used to it My best friend and my younger brother on the other hand had extremely intense and active trips. If you do try it, be very careful with the doasage, as a fraction of a gram can make a huge difference, so get some extremely good scales, or make sure you err on the side of too little. Or even better, get the fresh stuff and take it orally. Make sure you respect it.
edit: The law in most places on these substances is, in my opinion, a load of shit. Just because somehting is illegal, doesn't make it bad, and vice versa. Don't just try Salvia because it's legal.
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