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weed is the only smokable drug that can not be linked to cancer, heart problems or anything of that nature. Maybe paranoia causes the heart problems Slowing motor skills well that has never happen to people I know... they roll blunts while driving and smoke the whole thing to their face and their job... is guess what driving trucks for a living hahaha maybe it's effect is different for different people.... but you can not link weed to any health issues cept involving the brain I already know i fried up many brain cells. o wells they'll come back in 30 years.

People make the choice to go for the harder stuff those are what we call fiends..... weed is normal indians been smoking it im sure jesus christ smoked marijuana plenty of times. Who can resist the smell its just too inviting ahaha
i can see your point but all i kno i remember back at the age of tryna to hide it from my family and my uncle comes up(he's very sucessful) asks me and my cuz while we was high as f*** "That jamican ganja is the best".... ofcourse he hasn't done for awhile but I then realize more than 95% of the older people i knew does or used to smoke it... haha yo phoenix for real man your family doctor prolly smoke cannibis at night and you wouldn't know shit about it.

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No person in history has ever overdosed on weed alone. You’ll pass out before you overdose, and weed has a way of telling your brain that you've had enough anyway...unlike narcotics that tell your brain that "this doesn’t feel like the first time we did this...we better do more so we can get that first feeling again"....weed aint like that.

Once you’re stoned, you’re stoned. Young people often think it's fun to see just how high you can get, but in the end, they stop before they pass out....


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There is only 2 ways, to my knowledge, to overdose on marijuana.

1. To hook up a system to breath for you, that would constantly pump smoke into your lungs

2. You drop like a pound of hash into 1 brownie/cookie and eat it.. that'll probs send you to the hospital.

As Azi said, you are more likely to pass out, than O.D on it, and that alone is good enough to set it apart from normal drugs.

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THE PROBLEM IS NOT THE WEED ITSELF...
Read Thassius story ppl, that says it all... FIRST-OFF you start with weed, then u start takling heavy drugs.. Because u need more "cool experiences"
That's the point..
And don't talk about benefits of weed because it's just not f******g true.. there are no f******g benefits by and f*******g drug heavy or not..
Stop talking like f******g hippies and stop smoking that s**t!


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 1:47 am 
Terek is right.

If you USE weed, you have problems.
If you ABUSE weed, you have big problems.

Maybe it will not kill you... but the problems will get worse and worse. (because the weed makes the problems poof just like a noob... and thats not good because then you can not confront and deal with them)

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I have not smoked weed in about 6 years, but that’s just personal choice. I can't say the people smoking it have problems, because I know that’s not the case.

Everyone has to make their own decisions.


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You don't have to smoke weed. You could use a vapouriser or eat it. The health risks are due to the act of smoking, and while the patriculate matter may be greater, there are less carcionogens in weed smoke than in pure tobacco smoke, disregarding the armount of extra chemicals tobacco companies add to cigarettes. Even chewing tobacco has been known to cause cancer. PLUS weed doesn't contain nicotine, which is one of the most addictive known substances - per a given quantity it's more addictive than heroine. It's also highly poisonous.

While under the effects of weed, short term memory can be effected, motor skills and reactions are slowed, but once the effect wears off there no studies showing that the effects are permanent, or that any other "long term consequences" are real. It's all propaganda. None of it has been proven.

I hope all you people who are anti cannabis don't drink alcohol - if you do then you're huge hypocrites. Alcohol is responsible for crime, death, abuse, violence, depression, disease, etc etc etc. Alcohol causes more social, health & other problems than any other recriational substance, it's definately a lot worse than cannabis.

Drizzt's comments could equally be applied to drinking beer all day. Not everyone who smokes weed is chronic, and as others have pointed out, lots of successful people smoke weed and get on with their perfectly normal lives.

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ianegg wrote:
Alcohol is responsible for crime, death, abuse, violence, depression, disease, etc etc etc. Alcohol causes more social, health & other problems than any other recriational substance, it's definately a lot worse than cannabis.

Yea but its so damn fun :P


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Not everyone who smokes weed is chronic
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 6:20 am 
Just make a study about people who smoke weed.

And you will have your answers.

"My friends are normal and successful, and they smoke in the car and at work"

Well... maybe that is normal to you, but if you smoke in car and at work, then you have issues you need to calm down with drugs. Not saying its wrong... just saying its not helping and that its a part of a problem.

And smoking weed doesnt improve the ability to drive a car... it just makes you think you drive better, because you lose your judgement... lol

All people I know that smokes or has smoked weed are/used to be idiots, criminals, people with serious mental issues or drug users. Again, not saying its wrong... just stating its part of a problem.

I can not say that about alcohol or cigs. So its not the same. (but of course its similar to being alcoholic/chain smoker)

Make all the defense speeches you want. You know I am right. Right? Or do I have to prove it, on a gaming forum?

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Bhudda77. It's extremely unlikely that the only people you've met who smoke weed were criminals etc. Unless, of course, you tend to hang around with those kinds of people. Do you actually know wether most of the people you've known smoke weed or not? What about your teachers at school, or you bosses at work?

It may be true to say that most people who fit into those categories smoke weed though. BUT - The fact all cows have 4 legs doesn't mean everything with 4 legs is a cow.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 7:09 am 
Yes, you might be correct. This is the people i know smoke weed, and I dont know everything about the people I know, but I am pretty sure I know who smoke weed or not. (I live in sweden, its not that common here to smoke weed, because we dont have as big... differences in society like for example england and US... but the differences starting to increase, unfortunately, so I guess more and more people smoke weed(and other drugs))

Smoking occationally at a party, might be ok. But the thing is... most people who smoke weed doesnt just smoke occationally at a party. Most people use it like cigs and smoke regular. And thats just as bad as being alcoholic. Usually there is a problem behind it, that the weed is trying to forget.

Again.. not saying its something bad. Maybe its the only way...

But dont say stupid propaganda things like "you drive better" or "its just like cigs" or "its not dangerous for your health" or "its a good and safe way to relax or have fun" or "better than alcohol". Its just false.

And yes, weed might be better for your body in the long run than (large consumtion of) alcohol. But its just as bad for your head, your life.

Weed = part of a problem.


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 7:28 am 
I'ts like amazing to see how misinformed people are about the health risks of weed. People say the tabbacco companies hide the truth and lie about smoking, but every weed smoker doesn't know jack about what weed really does. Weeds not as harmful to most people as cigs cause most people don't smoke 10 joints a day. Not to mention that their is no hieghtening of anything when your stoned, weed is a downer, it makes you sluggish, and mellow. Anyone who says that's not true hasn't ever really been stoned, and probably never learned how to take a hit.

Personally, it's your choice, and none of my business. I have smoked weed, and I probably will again sometime, but for me it's a take it or leave it thing. I really don't want to smoke daily, or hang out with daily tokers. I've never met a daily weed smoker that I thought was a successful person. Most of them could hardly pay their rent, where frequently evicted, and alot of them started just living on the street.


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Yep buddha, smoking too much can definately be a bad thing. Thoush I get the impression that people who do constantly smoke a stupid amount would probably be using something else if weed didn't exist.

It's entirely possible to live a healthy productive life and smoke weed, drink alcohol, eat shitty food etc. if it's all done sensibly. I do agree that misuse and abuse of anything is a huge problem in todays society.

I don't know what you mean abuot the difference in society. Yes poor people statistically tend towards drug/alcohol abuse, but higher classes still use these things, perhaps with more restraint. The Victorian upper classes used to smoke opium as part of their daily lives, and this was during the industrial revolution, a hugely significant time of technological advancement. I don't think people smoke weed because of class differences.


Duncan, you have some f***** up logic. "Weeds not as harmful to most people as cigs cause most people don't smoke 10 joints a day." OK, putting your head in a furnace is not as harmful as smoking cigs because most people don't do it 10 times a day. Sorry I take the f***** up logic thing back - that makes perfect sense.

And you're also misinformed - "Not to mention that their is no hieghtening of anything when your stoned, weed is a downer, it makes you sluggish, and mellow." There are 2 subspecies of weed, Indica and Sativa. Simply put, one mongs you out the other makes you energetic. Both increase your sensitivity to taste, sound, touch and light and increase brain activity in certain areas. (While decreasing it in others, obviously.) It also increases your metabolism.

But yeah, the choice should be down to the individual. The government should be educating people, not taking away their freedom. People on both sides of the argument need education on the matter.

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