What about if some vendors don't sell anymore certain stuff?

Like blacksmiths wont sell weps/armors so that a Smith can either sell it's crappy iron plate to the new players...

Tailors don't sell cloths, so that players will buy cloth off other players...

Alchemists dont sell buff/poison/dmg pots...

Tinkerers dont sell certain items..

and so on, obvioulsy balanced, like you cannot take off the regs from vendors..

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i like the idea allot lol.
works with current player base and a more filled one

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yeah that should be nice to see ingame

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Yep, that could work!
Sounds it will make the game more playable for all... and bring the economy and crafters of any use

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but would the players (crafters) be able to sell back to the vendors?

But seriously, if people don't lower prices, things will just inflate to back to what they were... Economically speaking, with low supply of weapons, rides... and a high supply of gold, it's inevitable.

Noobs are essential to have the economy balanced. Without them, it's back to where we were.

So, if Bob plans to see if the cutting of loot (gold) will balance the economy. On the short term, perhaps, but if people don't supply other goods other than gold... well it's pretty obvious.

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well it wont be as bad as b4,,,
BUT it will still get bad like b4, its just a matter of time,,
honestly im done if theres anther gold wipe..

for a few weeks b4 im bored one day and decide to log on xD

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gah, a gold wipe happens once more im also done

im not sitting on the computer anymore tailoring for the 130k i made

I am pretty sure the gold wipe was a one time thing but i agree, i had to seriously consider coming back after the first one and now after all the time spent trying to get not even a fraction of what i had , i would be done as well.

well you weren't ment to have as much as b4,,, thats the reason he wiped it and made the gold harder to come by...

think like 1/4 of your money in t3a = all your money now meaning each gold peace is just worth more now.... (which is the intended effect) LIKE i said previously tho, this should have been more planned through because..
1) it wasn't fair because people who kept there money in items(like weps or bought rare clothes) got to keep the full value of there account while the people who kept it in gold form lost pure work... sold 300 str fish and sold your rare robe you had since 1999.. you walk away with nothing while the other guy who sold 100 str fish to buy your robe walks away with the robe... which can be resold.. at any means it has value... that the player who worked hardest LOST and the player who decided to go ahead and finally buy the robe lost little...........

2) vender items don't reflect this change... money is less on the shard yet a house cost more than previously. thus people will still assiociate craftable/fishable items as have a specific monitory value.....
so we lower our prices but have to pay more for items? lol...
what really cracked me up was the expensive things increased while the items that are attainable by hunts and usually are sold have decreased in value... wtf since does that make.. i really would like that explained to me....
but any way/

lets say in t4a you had 100 gold in your account average,,, you should have about 25 gold now on average and it should be able to buy the same items as before.. (if 100 GP for a myth set b4,, now it should be 25) and the same work/benefit ratio is maintained..
BUT like i said venders don't reflect this,,,, thus crafting prices and buyable prices and hunting gains Will not match up.. and things will be out of wack..
think of it like this
remeber the 100 GP a myth set example ? apply it here...

in t3a
blacksmith wants a house to keep ores...
house cost 500 GP
myth sets still sell for 100 GP a peace
black smith made 5 myth sets & sold them
bought a house for 500 GP.
it took him 1 hour per myth set
meaning he took 5 hours to earn a house.....

now this is why things can't get back to normal now...

in t4a
blacksmith2 wants a house to keep ores...
house cost 525 GP ( due to cost increase of high cost items from t3a to t4a)
myth sets sell for 25GP a peace due to complaints of prices (like your doing now)
blacksmith2 made 11 myth sets & sold them.
it took him 1 hour per myth set
meaning he took 11 hours to earn a house.....

now is this very fair? no... will this even the economy back stable.... no....
vender prices need to reflect monsters loot, including sellable items such as armor and gems...


thats probably not the exact numbers but thats the effect..........

but you really want them lower? lol like I said the consumers are just stupid on this shard.... I'll leave it at that lolz
maybe people should have taken economy classes in high school

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i agree with chips..... houses cost more and is more harder to make cash by different reasons like the loot table and the crafter skills broken or not working right.


but they say well .........regs and "other stuff" cost less then b4,cus they try to create a good economy but still there is alot of moves to make some of them just can be made in the crafter patch but other can be done right now but all depends of BOBs idea or plans wtfeva u wanna called.............


the loot table can be checked and tweaked dont need to wait until the crafting patch is released, also tweak some vendor prices maybe add some issues from this post that have good ideas.

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Well Chips, if you were correct, then a wipe would have been wrong. It should have been proportional. Let's say if you had 1 mill you would have 10% of that or something. That way it would have balanced the economy and not levelled from the bottom.

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i used to have alot of cash and losted in the wipe, i ask wtf happen and staff told me that they wipe the gold cus someone was duping cash.... and yeah that was unfair cus like chips say some players r rich cus the items they have and other cus the cash they have in bank, but thats all news , another wipe ? dont think i cant handle

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_Iori_ wrote:i used to have alot of cash and losted in the wipe, i ask wtf happen and staff told me that they wipe the gold cus someone was duping cash.... and yeah that was unfair cus like chips say some players r rich cus the items they have and other cus the cash they have in bank, but thats all news , another wipe ? dont think i cant handle

if the new that someone was duping cash they cud just ban them or make smth towards them , not towards all..

Also many players took advantage of many things like the headless warriors in the maze, which u cud easily train magery on them and poisoning without having a challenge and they dropped like 4k/5k...I remember Black Magic training there and earning like 1 mill gold..

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