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| Author: | Wizard_of_Gore [ Fri Jun 16, 2006 11:42 am ] |
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He's talking about the active ingredient alone Emo. Reminding us of how you know everything and how stupid we are isn't helping you figure out where are actually coming from. |
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| Author: | Rippa [ Fri Jun 16, 2006 11:59 am ] |
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You can never overdose on weed just wanted to add to this convo which is why weed is the most harmless "drug". Drug in quotes cuz people been doing it for centuries prolly as long as beer was invented to me means it's only consider a drug cuz of corruption. Them native americans knew what's up 
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| Author: | Thassius [ Fri Jun 16, 2006 1:44 pm ] |
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Well put wog. Ashes, as previously explained you would not possibly be able to ingest enough psylocybic mushrooms in terms of mass in order to overdose. Even the strongest shrooms (blue meanies) would still require you to consume far more than is humanly possible in order to reach the required dose. You would probably trip your tits off and froth at the mouth / vomit etc but you wouldn't be able to kill yourself this way. This has been calculated by factoring scientific tests regarding the lethality of psylocybin with the percentage concentrations of this chemical naturally occuring in the mushrooms. The ONLY way that you could overdose on psylocybin would be if it was extracted (NOT easy to do as it is not a stable compound) and taken in a pure form. If anyone died from taking mushrooms then they ingested a kind that were poisonous... either when psylocybic shrooms were misidentified or if they were taking amanitas anyway which are a COMPLETELY different drug and chemical altogether. This is fact, Ashes, and arguing til you are blue in the face won't make you any more right. |
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| Author: | theeggman [ Fri Jun 16, 2006 3:25 pm ] |
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Avoid eating mushrooms served with the full monty fry up in the Roehampton grill. Those babies gave me the shitz for a week. I'm guessing it wouldn't take eating too many of them ones to kill you off. Youd probably crap yourself to death within a fortnight. |
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| Author: | Wizard_of_Gore [ Fri Jun 16, 2006 3:34 pm ] |
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Thassius err... I thought you were arguing that the opposite of this point. However, we all know death can TECHINCALLY be cause by anything such as caffiene though, in certain conditions just due to high blood pressure, etc. Eggman: Eggzactly |
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| Author: | ianegg [ Fri Jun 16, 2006 3:36 pm ] |
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Had a look around for deaths cause by Magic Mushrooms, and found nothing other than people doing stupid things while tripping, or eating poisonous mushrooms. As mentioned before, Fly Argic are toxic, so if she did OD on a fungus she knowingly ate, that's the only one I can think of. This is a long article, but I found a nice paragraph to quote: http://www.davidmccandless.com/articles ... dicine.htm "Historically, governments have needed a strong public health case to convince parliament to back a change in the drug laws. A death or two usually helps. But, according to the government's own figures, not a single death has been attributed to use of magic mushrooms. This is unsurprising since the lethal dose is equivalent to one's own body weight in fresh fungi." Also: http://parent.aadac.com/addiction_info/ ... s_abcs.asp "There are no known deaths directly caused by overdose. For people with psychological problems, magic mushroom use can cause psychosis." |
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| Author: | Emo [ Fri Jun 16, 2006 6:07 pm ] |
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Try doing that on someone who has a liver disease... Mushrooms are hell on the liver, it's 10x worse than alcohol is. So yes, she did injest enough psylocybic mushrooms to do serious damage to her already failing liver, causing her to die. |
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| Author: | Thassius [ Sat Jun 17, 2006 10:07 am ] |
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Whence she died from liver disease. |
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| Author: | Emo [ Sat Jun 17, 2006 10:50 am ] |
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Cause by overdosing on mushroom.. jesus christ. |
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| Author: | ianegg [ Sat Jun 17, 2006 12:00 pm ] |
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OK. Someone has a nut allergy and they eat a Snickers. When they die, you call that overdosing on chocolate bars? |
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| Author: | Emo [ Sat Jun 17, 2006 12:28 pm ] |
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No, because they are allergic to it. She wasn't allergic to mushroom, she did them tons before, and never had any problems. It wasn't until she took enough to put her into convulsions (I.E Overdosing) that shut down her liver and other vital organs. It was caused by mushrooms. When someone dies from eating a poison, it's the poison that caused it, regardless of other issues/diseases, because prior to eating too much of it, they were living fine. |
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| Author: | ianegg [ Sat Jun 17, 2006 1:26 pm ] |
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Oops, I had a big reply typed out, but I f***** it up. Anyway - BULLSHIT Ahses. People with a failing heart can die from exercising, so by your logic exercising is more risky than breathing toxic fumes. Thanks for mentioning the failing liver in the first place too. Obviously there are going to be exceptions when one of your vital organs doesn't work properly. |
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