For those who still wonder why most arab countries don't want democracy and just want to stay the way they are, just watch Ashe's clip.

oh yeah, i was sorta being sarcastic there man. i thought it was obvious.

but still usa pwnts the hell out of the rest of the world. i dunno why cause all i do is play videogames and eat ice cream. wait yeah thats why.

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hey what am i supposed to do hate my own country lol. i still love all you weird speaking foreigners esp the uk peeps cause their accents wtfpwnt all the women here.

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GO BANANA!!

err.. shit.. I meant Canada.. yeah..

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Drizzt wrote: esp the uk peeps cause their accents wtfpwnt all the women here.

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hmm... im not gonna get started on all the conpsiracy in this country although there is alot...just plz to god dont let count see this or he will ramble on about a page full of poltical comments...we in the family have learned not to talk about politics around him becasue he talks to much

lmfao

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As i sit in my hotel reading this stuff i find it rather funny.... you say Apollo 13 was the first...? try 11..... Neil Armstrong.... Apollo 13 had the oxygen leak and subsiquent explosion that forced it to go around the moon never landing on it...

About Ashes' video clip.... I happen to have been an Air Force Brat due to my grandpas work in the Air Force along with various other parts of the United States Armed forces.... and to answer the question in the part of the video about the small holes.... Yes if a plan does hit something just right it cant do that... also with that much fuel on it and not alot of room to go most of the plane would have burned up and/or melt to the building...

Missles on the other hand do not completely burn up.... like the rear where the booster is that is made out of the same materials as space shuttles due to the emense heat coming out the back of them.... and missles make a bigger boom.... would have had to of been a small rocket of some sort and would not have caused so much damage.... if it wasnt a plane....

the part about arabs not liking us.... IMO who the f*** cares give me a gun and ill make em like us.... just how i am...

The thing about the Russians landing first on the moon YES they did but it was an UNMANNED rocket it was public knowledge that they had done it... JFK wanted to be the first country to put A MAN on the moon... tf cares about a unmanned rocket....? not me thats for damn sure....

also about how america has caused the most wars and blah blah blah.... the Catholic Church, England, France, Poland, GERMANY (did some people not learn about Adolf H .itler? i mean he did kill the most j .ews), and what about Futile Japan and China. Why blame america is it because we actually do something about the state of our planet by removing a person that was committing genocide on mass levels? or should we sit back and not do anything about it like the French? (they are pussies).

Everyone can criticize america all they want but let me ask you, do you have a better solution to what we do? Or would you just rather sit back and take it in the ass like a little bitch who wont do f*** about it?

like i have always said America is the last remaining super power in the world for a few reasons. Free Trade, Democracy, and the will to be better than everyone else. And a little something called 'elbow grease' basically means we arent afraid to get dirty when we have to unlike some people (the French [pussies])

Impe

Damn Impe. Well spoken

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Impe have you seen when in the video clip they *Compare* different 747 plane crashes? I guess your pride has blinded some of the parts of the video clip and also the most relevant ones. And are you saying its possible for a plane to crash and leave NOTHING behind when even a missile leaves parts of it after the explosion?

A alliance of coutries decided to go agaisnt H-itler and not America alone. Do not so easilly give the trophee of taking out H-itler to the U.S.A when about 30 countries were involved. In fact America didnt do much damage to H-itler since the Nazis had control of the Atlantic ocean with an army of submarines who took down American ships as they tried to cross troops and tanks across the ocean. Most of the work was done by Russia and the Ukrane who slowly took over Germany city by city. Hitler killed himself with his new wife he had married 36 hours before his death with a Cianure pill and a bullet in the head.

Aside from that world war America has been the instigator to many wars around the world. America is a large producer of guns, warfare equipment, tanks, rockets, etc... Since America did not have any use for the guns after the world war the governments found ways of selling guns to other countries by instigating some wars and trying to get other countries involved. I belive that the Bush administration had planned the September 11 assault with the Ladin family witch Bush family had good contacts with. Bush claiming that Ossama was the only one he didnt know much is total and complete bullshit and is to me whipping proof of how naive the American people are to their government. That's what the pride for America is all about. Believe all that the government will say and don't forget, God bless America. A very well worked plan to steal Orient's biggest source of revenue: The oil. Oil companies in Afganistan are now all American companies. Good job Bush!

Saddam Hussein claimed he had no weapons of mass destruction or biological weapons in his coutry and it was true. Yet that is the reason why America rejected the United Nation's inspections and took over Irak. None of those weapons were found, god knows what happened to Saddam Hussein who probably died because Bush saw him as a threat when he was truly no threat at all. I believe there are other reasons why Bush took over Irak killing thousands of officers, civilians and American soldiers. Guess thats what they call politics. Hey I don't like you, you're going down. Thousands of men and women will die but you're going down anyways. In this case, they died for nothing. A sickening tale history teachers will eventually have to tell to their students.

See Impe it's not a question of finding a solution or not. It's a question of were the American people manipulated for nationnal government quarrels and luxury? Like a lot of other Americans you are blinded by pride and you can't see the obvious or even reality. You don't even ask yourself why? You do what you're told and you stfu. Questionning orders will get you in trouble. See Impe, you're not the only one who's done military before unlike you might think. Difference between me and you is I see wider than you. I'm not trying to change your mind though. Just don't try to change mine and God Bless America huh

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PS: Impe if you don't know what your talking about pls STFU and instruct yourself? http://www.users.bigpond.com/sdchurch/conspira.htm

Under the British Mandate, Palestine officially was a Christian country, with Bethlehem having a population that was 90 percent Christian. Now the town that gave birth to Christ - and Christianity - has only about 10 percent Christian. And in what remains of Palestine, one finds only one town - Beit Sahour - with a Christian majority. It, too, is being threatened: planned Jewish settlements could change the demography, make it predominately Jewish. "The Israelis have targeted the Palestinian Christian community for extinction," Beit Sahour Christian leader Elias Rishmawi told me. "We are an endangered species."

Facts not fiction. Cold hard facts. Will your pride blind them too?

I find most of your remarks laughable at best... I wasn't giving total credit to the US for WW2 and if you had read it correctly you would have seen that.

The reason missles leave behind some debree is the fact that the protection around the boosters has to be so much more durable than the rest... and notice with those pictures where were they? Open fields... ya... none had crashed into a building.

Saddam Hussien had been killing thousands of Kurds dumb ass it was genocide who ever wasnt with him got tourched and killed to talk to me like i believe everything my government tells me. And aside from Weapons of Mass Destruction, I personally think going after someone who is committing genocide is much more important. Maybe I'm wrong but isnt human life worth more than weapons?

Granted we make the most but we don't go starting wars... now think I named off MANY countries and one religion and yet you only talked about world war 2 and the recent events in Iraq... funny maybe they dont teach good enough world history where you live.

About me being blinded by my pride, thats bullshit, there are 3 reasons I was kicked out of the Armed Forces 3 times and one of them was I didnt follow my orders 100% of the time so you can just stfu with that bullshit.

About the NASA thing.... its a Conspiracy Theory granted a good one with alot of compelling research (I have read that before no need to read it agian) but the thing is... There is a conspiracy theory for everything.... Like the one about JFK not really being dead... Elvis never died either if your going to believe them all... and oh yes.... Area 51 it has aliens....

Its funny how most people still think that America is in the 1950s and we all do what we are told to do... When in truth we really don't of course most of us pay our taxes send our kids to public schools (teachers there piss me off.... f***** liberal bitches) and watch sports on sunday mornings... its f***** American its what we do... and dont tell me to stfu like i dont know what im talking about...

p.s. about the whole war thing agian i just remembered.... The Romans.... they caused way more wars than us... and also Africans... lot more wars there are still being faught so please next time you want to talk about something.... atleast try and make it so your just not attacking someone or something.

and the whole thing at the end... if it happened... dont you think the french or the PLO would bitch about it? i mean come on... the french... biggest pussies in the world....

As I though you'd say. The plane will be completely carbonized to a point where nothing is left behind the crash. Thats most ridicoulus and laughable also. Have you ever seen a plane crash?

True Saddam Hussein has committed genocide and I totally disagree with that and to me he deserved death but the american people have been played for fools thinking Saddam had weapons of mass destruction. Why didnt Bush announce he was going for Saddam because of the murders he had committed? Because that would not be reason enough for other countries to help Bush take him out. Hussein was not the only one who killed people for political reasons of his. A lot are guilty of such behavior unfortunatly.

The quarrels in Africa today are quarrels that REMAIN in Africa and other countries are usually not involved unless for providing support for the citizens who are affected by such quarrels that have been going on for years.

There are a lot of wars in the world today and I'm sure I know just as much or more about them than you do. I also know the REAL causes for these wars. I gave WW2 and war in Irak as 2 prime examples in my last post. Don't be so quik at judging my knowledge of whats going on in the world today. I don't watch government controlled american news on tv in the afternoon

You say the NASA insident is just a theory. A good one... WTF are you talking about. It's no longer a theory or conspiraty. Its PROOVED FACT. The government went on blaming NASA for being corrupted when its the american government who instigated the project. American government says the pressures due to the cold war got them to fake landing on the moon first. 10 known astronauts murdered trying to keep the secret. Area 51 in the Nevada desert was used to put together the false pictures and tape recordings produced to the naive americans. You just watch too much X-Files thinking Area 51 is used to keep and study alien flight crafts. Although I've watched almost all the X-Files series and even in the X-Files the truth Mulder is looking for is nothing but government conspiraty. Rumors spread to the people, lies about Area 51 having aliens in it to blind and play the american people. Average american freak Mulder would not believe it and kept on searching for answers putting down facts that he was being played.

Lastly, don't bring back ancient wars and old history where Europe was taken over about 15 times by different cultures and countries. Romans, Ottomans, Mongols, Cruisaders and so forth. I'm talking about the American government playing you for a fool. And when did I ever talk about France? Did you know France has recently put up a law about religon in schools. NO sign of religious belief is to be worn in public schools by kids anymore. Therefore no crosses, no vales for muslim girls, no Jewish stars, etc... To me France is the most neutral country there is faced to religion and wars. Do you blame Jaques Chirac for not going to war in Irak for false american accusations? I greatly respect the fact that he wants his country to be neutral to all this crap going on in the world. I think the world would be so much more if all country authorities were neutral to religion like Chirac is. France is indeed a great country.

NatureWarrior wrote:True Saddam Hussein has committed genocide and I totally disagree with that and to me he deserved death but the american people have been played for fools thinking Saddam had weapons of mass destruction. Why didnt Bush announce he was going for Saddam because of the murders he had committed? Because that would not be reason enough for other countries to help Bush take him out. Hussein was not the only one who killed people for political reasons of his. A lot are guilty of such behavior unfortunatly.

Approximate number of US casulties due to 9-11: 3.000 people.

Approximate number of civilian casulties in Iraq caused by US military intervention: 23.000. This is a conservative estimate, only considering direct deaths by US bullets and bombs. Some think up to, or more than, 100.000 civilian people has been killed.

Approximate number of civilian casulties in Afghanistan caused by US military intervention: 10.000 people. Again a number reflecting only people confirmed killed by US bullets and bombs. Other believe the number should be in the range 50-60.000.

I'm not taking side here, but if you look at the number of casulties and what has come out of the US middle east campaign, i really can't see the point. Though it is also believed that Saddam killed at least 100.000 of his own people during his years in charge.