Damaging caster

so why would you ever cast earthquake? What point is there? It just took me 99 mana to cast it one time, because of the fizzle. It may have cost 100 but i could've gained a point right after the fizzle. It's the only 8th circle spell that does any damage, but it damages the caster and it fizzles you most of the time so it costs more mana than usual.

The only 8th circle spell right now that's of any use is resurrection. None of the summoned creatures try to attack what you tell it to, except the caster.

And how does a spell do damage to you if you fizzle. You either cast the spell or you don't. It's like saying, 'i'm kinda pregnant.'

ffs either you are or you aren't

you either succeed in casting the spell or you don't.

If you succeed, the spell works, if you don't succeed, you fizzle, and it doesn't do damage to you.

It's like you set it up so you can have your cake and eat it too. Which is illogical, and unfair. Area of effect spells never used to damage the caster, and now they do.

Why the change as i didn't see it in the changelog, but we're supposed to check that to see if something changed that could kill us. Hmm, casting earthquake CAN KILL YOU.

In every role-playing game i've ever played, aoe spells do not damage the caster unless specifically stated. The only place i see it mentioned for obsidian is where i've posted about it before. Haven't gotten a response from a gm saying that it's supposed to work that way, or that it was a f*** up and it will be changed.

Can i get a response about it please? Apparently no one else cares, but i do, otherwise i wouldn't post.

Thought we we're supposed to post about bugs, but why would we if you won't even take the 10 seconds to say, works as intended, or we'll get to it when we can it's in spot x on the priority list.


edit: i do see in the changelog that "-- Magic can now also damage yourself" which says nothing about aoe spells, just magic. Aoe spells didn't used to damage the caster. Would you please clarify, as i'm a f***** idiot and i need it spelled out for me. At least i'll know a gm read the post.

I agree AOe spells and 8th circle spells need to have uses lol.. atm there pointless

I think its illegal to use it to damage people in walls so that makes it extra useless lol
so useless its a negative for your self if you cast it...
(cast it and your always in worst position then you were previously)

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it has uses. its for killing rides in houses...

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GMBob wrote: A non-bob gm who shall remain nameless did it!

no you can use it to kill ppl in walls, just not in buildings like rides....

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Im not sure if its legal to hit people in stone walls, i know for sure its illegal to hit people/animals in houses, that SHOULD be fixable though, i would assume bob could figure out how to make houses a safe-zone from AOE, however we should totally be able to hit people with EQ through walls, its an earthquake after all. A wall isnt going to stop the ground from shaking...

_Venom_ wrote:Im not sure if its legal to hit people in stone walls, i know for sure its illegal to hit people/animals in houses, that SHOULD be fixable though, i would assume bob could figure out how to make houses a safe-zone from AOE, however we should totally be able to hit people with EQ through walls, its an earthquake after all. A wall isnt going to stop the ground from shaking...

true that

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Interesting that came up, as ereaser was outside my house recently, and he was doing what he does. We were discussing the legality of using aoe spells to avoid line of sight. Bob showed up and explained that it is not illegal to use aoe spells vs players, as they should be smart enough to avoid them, and if they aren't, well... However it is illegal to use vs npc's as they will run towards you, and then it's bug abuse. Another thing bob said that falin had mentioned, is that if a player is inside a house, not yard, it is illegal to use aoe spells to target said player.

And a gm hasn't responded yet. AWESOME:D

Fixed earthquake, which makes sense because it radiates out from the caster but the rest of the AOE are targetted with relatively small aoe so if the caster wants to explode something near him, it'll hurt him as well.
Also fixed mass curse.

Any other aoe you feel would be justified not hitting the caster?

Nope, think that was it. thanx