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Terek Molt
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 6:53 pm |
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What am I going to write is NOT INTENTED to be OFFENSINVE in any way, but it's just intented as a constructive criticism.
Nowadays IMO when obsidian changed from t3a to t4a it plain sucked.
I'm realizing day by day that playing kinda sucks atm.
First off the account creation still doesnt work, which means less noobs can join because new players do not automatically understand that they have to register to forums and request via PM to GMBob a new account, also waiting for Bob to get on to create more accounts it also sucks more, since he's not on 24/7 (like an actual automatic account creation system wud work). [We all understand that the t4a is still on scripting and beta and stuff, but old players like us, or actually, I, get bored seing the same names running around Vesper, and so, I care less about playing]
As we all know CRAFTING is f***** up, so there is no really a point doing it. (We all hope the crafting patch will be out soon).
PvP balance is f***** up also, so whoever built a mage with a lot of effort, can now trash it into a can, since it cannot fight not even a noob warrior due to fizzle rate per hit and extremily high weapon damage.
Last but not least is about the drops on monster, ok we already argued about that, and about the economy..but what do we have 5 dungeons for if the bosses or actually the hard monsters have extremily sucking drops now? This drops system imo completely sucks.
If anyone wants to feel free to add any constructive criticism or anything else is more than welcome to post it over here.
p.s.
If the only thing I was waiting for when we were waiting for in t3a were races to be brought back, well...I don't really care now about races, since if everything else is just not working good.
_________________ Thassius wrote:lol I see now... we don't change monster spawns to suit pkers who get owned by them, sorry.
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chips LL
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 11:34 pm |
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damn terek did you get PKed and get all emotional or something :/
but i agree about the account creation.
the same noob that joins now if the account creation was up IS NOT the same noob as if everything was done (2011) and you opened up account creation.
By keeping it closed, your just prohibiting potential and future player base.
and noobs are essential in the economy of obsidian, without them... well you see whats happening 
and nothing will achieve true balance without a right economy.... so to get one guess what bob has to add?
indeed... and mages and warriors are actually pretty close now, closer than they were b4 IMHO. now i cant kill every warrior  damage can be nulled or myth and silver AR get a boost.
I like the high damage for Warrior V warrior the fights actually end within 50 minutes now.... lol. but with dexxers coming back, I see a complete reversal, there heal times are so ridiculous you'll basicly NEED poison for PvP and i always considered it an option not a necessity.
but ya if dex gets kept the way it is, i doubt you'll see any diversity. it's the cheaper and better way of building your warrior atm
+ a big problem i see in the future is STEALTH ON WARRIORS.
ATM u can use all your actions when u use the stealth skill to hide your character,
meaning mages will have to reveal, every time they invis.
and they can heal while staying invis.
which means warriors can get to lets say half damage and decide to invis.
wait for his timer which is about the same on a none dexxer as the cast timer on reveal meaning he gets a heal + he can just reinvis b4 any other spell can hit him besides harm.
I think stealth should take longer to do. but you can walk longer distances with you hidden, but you have to be in peace mode and you fail the skill when being hit trying to stealth your self.
o and big one. you cant stay invis and keep on healing like you can now..
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GMBob
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 6:52 am |
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Alright, just to point out the difference between constructive cricism. 90% of terek's post was whining, not constructive criticism, and i want to take this time to point out that the difference is not that he put "this is constructive criticism" at the front. Keep in mind this is whining in the traditional sense of the word, not the "wahh wahh i'm a baby" type whining that some people think it is used as.
The difference between whining and constructive criticism is it's usefulness in actually fixing a problem.
"This Sucks" - Whining.
"This sucks, this is why" - Still mostly whining. A little bit of constructiveness in it.
"This sucks, this is why, and this is what could be done to change it" - There's constructive criticism. It attemps to fix the problem.
That being said, i'll try to address this stuff from the top.
Accounts will remain non auotmated because i've said it before and i'll say it agian, we do NOT WANT to recruit massive amounts of people now. You only get one chance to make a first impression, and so if we started massively recruiting now then we would lose most of our potential players due to the state of the shard. This way they know what they're getting into. My criteria for opening account automation is the same as it has been since t4a went in, which is a 50-60% happiness with the state of the shard, all balance issues being within 20% +- of acceptable levels, and the 5 major items done. Not perfect workign shard, but enough that they won't join to a bunch of negative nancies.
Crafting - get used to it. The patch is getting worked on. End of story there because whining won't make it go faster.
Pvp balance - You know i'm hearing conflicting views from different people. Was scripting the other day and in console two vets were just logging back in that day and they were stating how different pvp was but that mages aren't really troubled and they were surprised given all the issues on the forum. Not saying no balance is gonna be done, but i don't htink it's as cut and dried an issue to fix as you think. and i've been doing slight balance adjustments continually, just can't do any now because my monitoring systems are down due to the connection issues bb's having, and they gather most of my balance data to make it easier for me to make good adjustments.
Drops on monsters - k? Not exactly sure what you're promoting here or what type. Gold, weapons, etc? Mad that daemons don't give +9s all the time now? Or just that you can't get enough arrows to survive. Details man details. The difference between your post helping and me just ignoring it as not useful.
Chips
Healing - There's a cap on minimum healing time now, so dexers aren't as rediculous.
Stealth on Warriors - Will fix the healing in stealth. That being said there is another skill to deal with stealth besides magic. Mages are kinda lucky they get reveal for free. And i'll look into upping the timer for stealth to activate, but i don't think i'm going to make the damage stop stealthing. We'll see though. I'll also look into acceptable actions for stealth.
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Terek Molt
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 8:04 am |
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GMBob wrote:Drops on monsters - k? Not exactly sure what you're promoting here or what type. Gold, weapons, etc? Mad that daemons don't give +9s all the time now? Or just that you can't get enough arrows to survive. Details man details. The difference between your post helping and me just ignoring it as not useful.
Ok so what I'm trying to say about DROPS.
Gold is ok imo atm, I don't have any issue with it, eventho it has been reduced to 50%.
Drops, I don't care if daemons don't give +9s all the time, first off in all the hunting I've done I NEVER found a +9 at all, the top wep I found was a +5.
As I said about DUNGEON BOSSES, they have REALLY LAME drop. Weren't they thought to make hunting harder but more proficuos, but now I say, there is no point going killing a Dracholiche, a Skeletal King or any other dungeon boss in deceit or wherever else since u WASTE MORE EFFORT AND MONEY (regs, bandies, time) to only get 1.5k. That is totally non-sense..but all the rest is fine, less gold? OK..but where are the drops?
so to clearify it all: What's the point of haveing a 1000 STR monster to kill into a dungeon if I only get 1k cash and 90% of the times (for eg I kill it 100 times and 90 times it doesn't drop) off it?
_________________ Thassius wrote:lol I see now... we don't change monster spawns to suit pkers who get owned by them, sorry.
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Fate
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 10, 2009 3:22 pm |
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Damnit i guess ill be droping stealth 
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belgarion
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 10, 2009 3:42 pm |
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You will always hear conflicting views when it comes to pvp balancing. Because there are some who don't really want a true balance, they want their chosen char to be slightly more effective and want to be able to kill the other type rather easy. There are some players who think that pvp depends solely on the char and not timing and skill. I have said it b4 and i will say it again the only way to get a decent balance is through lots and lots of testing. Not by hearsay of who killed who and w/e but staff run pvp testing.
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chips LL
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 10, 2009 6:11 pm |
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el yay! events!
but um, ya i agree with terek
wepon drops for monsters SUCK, this is why, they dont drop a variety or range of magical strength weps, you can fix this by making +9s drop a bit more often,
the most i magical strength wise was +7 off a king goo goo when we tried clearing hyloth,,
and that was a ridiculous damn monster..... it just dropped ALOT of lower weps, and no higher weps like +9, just +7s +5s and some ruin and +3 weps
I had got 2 +7s a +5 and 1 +3 and 2 +1s I THINK not sure again,,,, but i remeberi t was a range of weps with no +9
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Azimuth
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 10, 2009 7:45 pm |
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I'll have to agree with the majority of folks here. Drops are a rather crappy ATM.
Lich Lords are on the top end of the middle difficulty scale, yet they rarely drop anything at all, and when they do it's only a single ruin or defense item. I killed a succubus the other day, it dropped 1100 gold, defense legs and a ruin pitchfork...it was durable ruin, but no where near what anyone would expect to get from something that difficult. I don't even know how many Elder Gazers I killed, and they gave nothing at all.
I'd like to see the monsters that are supposed to drop low to mid level stuff drop them a little more often. I'd like to see power and vanquishing items as rare on the top 25% of monsters, but the top 5% of monsters guaranteed to drop a highly useful item.
Mostly, I'd LOVE to see the shitty technique of substituting 2 crappy items for one mediocre item, or 3 crappy items for 1 good item done away with entirely. I know this is done for variety, but spawns that are known to drop halfway decent items are GREAT for the shard. They become a focal point outside of town. People fight for control of these places, PKs frequent them for victims, friendships are formed when the spawns are shard, and enemies are made when the sharing goes bad....all of these are exactly why people are drawn to MMORPGs, and it's all brought about because one magical monster is guaranteed to drop a might or force quality weapon.
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Falin
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 12, 2009 5:59 pm |
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yes!!! I get too excited when i here that weapon drop sound go off and open the bag or bags to get armor...its rare enough to get a bag to drop let alone a wep!!!
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