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PostPosted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 8:55 am 
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I do not wish to start a flame war of any kind nor do I hold any grudges against anyone but this is just to make things clear as some people seem to use this word quite irrationally.

Jihad, sometimes spelled Jahad, Jehad, Jihaad, Djehad or Cihad, (Arabic: جهاد‎ ǧihād) is an Islamic term, from the Arabic root ǧhd ("to exert utmost effort, to strive, struggle"), which connotes a wide range of meanings: anything from an inward spiritual struggle to attain perfect faith to a political or military struggle. Individuals involved in the political or military forms of jihad are often labeled with the neologism "jihadist" or "jihadi".

The term "jihad" describes is often used to describe purely physical and military "religious war", though physical struggle. Some Muslim scholars say that this only makes up part of the broader meaning of the concept of jihad. The denotation is of a struggle, challenge, difficulty or (frequently) opposed effort, made either in accomplishment or as resistance. A person who engages in any form of jihad can be called a mujahid (in plural: mujahidin) (Arabic: striver, struggler). Such a person might engage in fighting as a military struggle for religious reasons, or for example, struggle to memorize the Qur'an. Jihad has gained a negative connotation and reputation in much of the West because of its usage by various groups classified by the United States of America as terrorist organizations as part of its War on terror.

Credit goes to wikipedia but since I am a muslim ill tell you that in the quran you can only do or force jihad if you are being attacked or if you or your family have been opressed only then may you go on jihad if it is something involving of innocent casualities then it is not jihad if any of you ever have the time please refer to these links:

http://www.dogchurch.org/chapel/jihad.html
http://www.thewaytotruth.org/islam-humanity/jihad.html
Hope this clears things up :D


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Also further on as people blame all of islam for this so called jihad carried out by terrorists but yet noone blames the germans for what their leader did nor do people blame christians for the crusades so please next time someone uses a term make it so that you do your homework first thanks.


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Wow thanks so glad you cleared that up.....


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mediumz wrote:Also further on as people blame all of islam for this so called jihad carried out by terrorists but yet noone blames the germans for what their leader did nor do people blame christians for the crusades so please next time someone uses a term make it so that you do your homework first thanks.
I blame the germans for electing their leader i blame america for electing bush and I blame the romans for not killing of the christians when they had the chance :twisted:

ty for the knowledge I really do appreciate it :D

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Dedo wrote: I blame the germans for electing their leader i blame america for electing bush and I blame the romans for not killing of the christians when they had the chance
Lol...I wonder how the world would be today if that was the case?

I'm not saying that I agree with the above, just saying that it is interesting food for thought.

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Britannia owned Rome....... :shock:


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''christians to the lions''... :twisted:

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Didn't know you were muslim too. The defenition you gave was better than any I could have given myself.

Two thumbs up!

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Personally I'm just as neutral to religion as I am to this game. I have nothing against any religion... but I am against those who say their religion is correct and all others are wrong. I am against those who seek to convert everyone else. Let people think for themselves.

That aside, I think it was pretty dispicable the fun that was poked at Nature Boy... even if I don't like the guy either.

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Dedo wrote: I blame the romans for not killing of the christians when they had the chance
Thorfin wrote:''christians to the lions''... :twisted:
umm... there are christians in this game so if u can, please refrain your self, and yes i agree with wizzard of gwar

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Wizard_of_Gore wrote:I am against those who say their religion is correct and all others are wrong.
:?

So you're saying you are right and everyone else is wrong?

Surely if someone THINKS that they are right and everyone else is wrong, then you telling them NOT to think that means that you are telling them they are wrong?

Which in effect means the statement is an endless loop - by definition you are against yourself :oops:


food for thought: there actually DOES have to be a 'right' somewhere...

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Which in effect means the statement is an endless loop - by definition you are against yourself
No shiite.

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mediumz wrote:
since I am a muslim ill tell you that in the quran you can only do or force jihad if you are being attacked or if you or your family have been opressed only then may you go on jihad if it is something involving of innocent casualities then it is not jihad if any of you ever have the time please refer to these links:
JUST curious (and if it is going to start a flame war, then DELETE MY POST) - but whereabouts in the Quran does it say that?

And does the principle of abrogation really hold true for the Quran?

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Don't be against yourself WoG!!!

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Carling wrote:Wow thanks so glad you cleared that up.....
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