I'm sorry if this seems out of place Thas or against something you said at one time or another.....but this is what I do when I'm bored....



PG-13 is thus a sterner warning to parents, particularly when deciding which movies are not suitable for younger children. Parents, by the rating, are alerted to be very careful about the attendance of their under-teenage children. A PG-13 film is one which, in the view of the Rating Board, leaps beyond the boundaries of the PG rating in theme, violence, nudity, sensuality, language, or other contents, but does not quite fit within the restricted R category. Any drug use content will initially require at least a PG-13 rating. In effect, the PG-13 cautions parents with more stringency than usual to give special attention to this film before they allow their 12-year-olds and younger to attend. If nudity is sexually oriented, the film will generally not be found in the PG-13 category. If violence is too rough or persistent, the film goes into the R (restricted) rating. A film's single use of one of the harsher sexually derived words, though only as an expletive, shall initially require the Rating Board to issue that film at least a PG-13 rating. More than one such expletive must lead the Rating Board to issue a film an R rating, as must even one of these words used in a sexual context. These films can be rated less severely, however, if by a special vote, the Rating Board feels that a lesser rating would more responsibly reflect the opinion of American parents.


http://www.mpaa.org/FlmRat_Ratings.asp

_________________
[email protected]

Ankhesenamun
Dedo Serenity
Fisherwmn
Ruby Estella
Enchantress

what do u want dedo, change? obs dont change. there have been many like u and there will be many more to come. dont go looking for a ban

_________________

A while back, maybe a year or more, I posted a pic that had a url on it and it was edited by a staff member and removed saying because the site contained things like boobies or whatever it isn't appropriate. Well... that was only to have someone else post the EXACT same picture the next day, never to have it removed heh-heh. I don't really view it as the staff members fault, more like the fact that some people consider themselves "special" or something I don't know. I did call foul in any case though of course. People get away with something once around a paticuliar person(s) that doesn't get mad, then think it's just fine to do it around everyone. The thing is though, it's been proven if you repeatively "over step the bounds" you EVENTUALLY are out of here. Some people sooner than others.

_________________
Ultima avatar: The Famed JIZABOZ,GWAR Guildmeister

I just edited it out because it had flashing pictures of nudity on the sides of that link jiz, had no problem with the actual picture you wanted to show.

And come on Kigger - no reason to be so pessimistic. Arguing is fine just keep it constructive.

As for dedo's post, pretty interesting reference!

I was trying to leave you out of it as I posted "a staff member" hehe. Well I thought I had directly linked the image with the [img] tag. Oh well, in the past now

_________________
Ultima avatar: The Famed JIZABOZ,GWAR Guildmeister

I'm not trying to change things..... from what I have seen the PG-13 here follows the rules that I found pretty well... We are all human and humans end up finding other humans annoying and thus read what the annoying one says more carefully looking for a reason to be annoying back. Its all in our nature....I have no Idea where that came from but its sounds good so um yeah...

_________________
[email protected]

Ankhesenamun
Dedo Serenity
Fisherwmn
Ruby Estella
Enchantress

That is a perfectly valid reference Dedo, thanks for your input.

However, I'm sure you can appreciate that PG-13 clearly specifies 'one' use of such a word as an expletive; any more occurances and the rating would be 'R'.

By nature of a forum, such words may be posted multiple times - often in the same post, let alone the same thread. Thus, that post or thread would exceed the criteria for PG-13.

Dedo wrote:single use of one of the harsher sexually derived words, though only as an expletive shall initially require the Rating Board to issue that film at least a PG-13 rating.... More than one such expletive must lead the Rating Board to issue a film an R rating

Therefore, in order to maintain a 'PG-13' environment, we provide a warning for a single use of such a word - and stronger punishments if this persists. We also have a word filter that allows the original content of the message to remain intact (for reference) but still censors the precise contents of the word at hand. If the word written manages to slip through the word filter then the individual is still warned, because the offense has still been committed regardless of whether we have been able to censor the issue or not.

Matters such as this tend to become escalated to a more serious level when the individual becomes argumentative or begins to attack our stance on the issue. This is unneccessary, because our aim is merely to keep the forums as harmonious as possible, whilst remaining suitable for the wide age range of players that Obsidian caters for. At this stage, the punishment has become more of a misconduct issue than merely a censorship one and is more serious!

Just because you consider something to be acceptable, doesn't mean that a younger player (or their parents) will do, either. When I began this job and we really starting cracking down, I even had players PM me saying that their parents had stopped them playing the game because of the contents of the message boards and the impression that this left (which was a poor one). You have to remember that most younger players can't afford their own PC; they often use that of a parent or younger sibling.

Now that they could show that the staff were keeping the suitability of the community discussion in check, their parents were more inclined to let them play. I even spoke to one parent on MSN to assure her that we had a safe, stable environment as a priority for children and not just adults to enjoy.

Thanks,

GM Thassius.

_________________
Thassius
"Blessed are the noobs, for they shall inherit Obsidian" - Thassius

Did anyone else see Thass's post and just go "ok nope"..

_________________
R.I.P Will A.K.A Affliction/Bush-Fire/Decayed-Stone - "Stoners live and stoners die. f*** it all, let's go get high"
You should either love me with a passion, or hate me to death..

Yeah.

_________________
Scarlet - Lady of the Lake [COLD]
Jackie Daniels - Liquid Death [COLD]
Vilee - Tamer in training [TLC]
Lumbie - I've got wood! [ACME]

Eh well, it was a bit long... me myself I have a hard time figuring out what is so complicated about trying to be friendly and remembering there ARE kids here.

( Er... even if Oderous has one impaled over his shoulder in my guild sig... thanks... for the cookies... mom sent ya )

_________________
Ultima avatar: The Famed JIZABOZ,GWAR Guildmeister

Thassius.... I didn't post this to be argumentative at all..... as I stated before I think y'all are doing a splendid job of adhearing to these guidelines....I was more posting it to clear up what PG-13 means for all the players who keep whining......and yes we do have people here who are under 13....I can think of 2 off the top of my head.

_________________
[email protected]

Ankhesenamun
Dedo Serenity
Fisherwmn
Ruby Estella
Enchantress

am i one?

_________________

Emo wrote:BTW, Ereaser, you spelt your forum name wrong from your in-game name.. lmfao

mr.bell wrote:am i one?

i don't know who you are i don't think....

_________________
[email protected]

Ankhesenamun
Dedo Serenity
Fisherwmn
Ruby Estella
Enchantress

Did anyone else see Thass's post and just go "ok nope"..

Ha! ashes that was funny

_________________

Dedo, I know you weren't being argumentative (whence my thanking you for your input), so don't think that my post is directed toward you.

I just felt that given the nature of your post it was important that the players know the staff stance on this - otherwise it was inevitable for at least one person to say 'OMG I only swore once its PG-13 its allowed'. No, it isn't

And if you are incapable of reading less than 450 words Ashes then you are a moron, most kids can do that.

I won't consider 'ok nope' an excuse for breaking my ruling on this one, so if you decide not to take 2 minutes to read what I have said then that is on your own heads, not mine.

And as WoG very rightly said, I should not need to go into great depth to explain why such language is innappropriate for younger eyes.

It would really be nice if a little more maturity, courtesy and common sense was displayed by some of the older players here - and then we wouldn't need to constantly keep going over the same ground. Personally I'm beginning to find it tiring and I will just end up suspending forum access for those individuals if it saves my time, Hydro's time, other staff time, the moderator team's time, and forum space.

I'm here to run forum, not be your mother. Think before you speak and we'll not have a problem.

NB: This thread has now been locked. Dedo has kindly explained the definition of PG-13 - I have then explained how this fits into a forum scenario and the staff stance on the issue. No further discussion is needed.

_________________
Thassius
"Blessed are the noobs, for they shall inherit Obsidian" - Thassius