I voted to hard,
i've noticed now because training swords SUCKS BIG DONKEY PEE PEE

problems i have
1) you never gain if u miss, so while your low in skill, you miss more, thus u gain LESS
like your in your 90s, same goes with all the skills that are passive (EG. PARRY)

2) even when you are able to hit a good % of the time, they gains are to slow still! compared to b4!

3) Magery, O,M,G, I don't care personally but I doubt there will be any noobs Gming Magery, gains are to slow! period! , med gains surpassed it now! lolz

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king of the run on sentence.

Need to make your titles less retarded, every time I see a title that is longer than 6 words I know it's you, noob.

All I've noticed atm is that I have not seen hide nor hair of a gain for for magery since the changes - but yes it is almost gm. Also resist gains are non-existent on my pvm mage too, although I do think this is because parrying is absorbing any would be gains. I'd probably gain more if I did not equip a shield.

Other stuff seems to still gain reasonably though - healing for example. To be honest, the skills I use most are already gm so i wouldn't know how most are to train atm. But I did have a go at lumberjacking before, which was not all bad

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This has been discussed in multiple threads in the bugs/suggestions forum, and it's on the list, so the poll is irrelevant and just serves to annoy me.
Please guys, read your forums. Or at the very least use the search button.

That being said the "you never gain when you miss" is bs and always has been, most people just never notice it.
Gains will get fixed when they come up on the list. For those who read the threads about it, they already know when that is gonna be, for those who don't, you get to guess.

Hopefully it will be soon on the list for I've already seen new players come and leave because of this. I started a noob warrior and its not fun spending your whole day training for near nothing in reward.

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GMBob wrote: so the poll is irrelevant and just serves to annoy me. .

my goal is achieved then
so basicly, don't train atm, if the skill your training is to hard cuz that will get fixed? lol damn,
i bet its low on the list because didn't you do that "what does obsi need changed" thing before the t4a patch b4 gains were f***** up??( in fact weren't gains a bit easier on t4a b4, and you said o it's just a gift or w,e for sticking around and now gains are scaled back, so if there latest on the list why was it scaled back so far before, or easier?shouldn't you have just kept it at t3a? or scaled back the gains when you were actually ready to finish the gains?

and i agree with chemi, it sucks training jesus christ it's almost pointless

O and spawn
SUCK A BIG DONKEY DICC

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king of the run on sentence.

I prefer it this way.

It is just like it was before. No more gming skills in a bunch of days, but with a lot of effort and good serious training.

Btw on my pvm I went from 88.2 parry to 93.1 in 1 hour.

You just need to know how to train certain skills, and if u dont gain while u miss, then train more, and u'll see u'll start missing less as skill increases...

Magery is fine as gaining as any other skill, or most of em all...you just need to get to know how to train them well cause recently it was hell of easy gains and everybody cud gm poison, magery, melees and most of the skills in a matter of a few days...

This will also mean for noobs to get to know better their character before messing it up...

No need to complain about hard gains, do it oldschool, train a lot.

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Thassius wrote:lol I see now... we don't change monster spawns to suit pkers who get owned by them, sorry.

but thats coming from the guy that already GMed most of his skills.

and i said parry was fast gaining, that should be scaled back, not the other skills such as swords where training just leads you to uoloop in a gy for days.
i doubt a noob can learn more about going in war mode and clicking something.If you like training go head and FFF your swords and reGM it and see how you feel.+ i bout i'll need training tips from you lolz

as chemi said, noobs came and left because of that, so you can put your theory to rest terek, these hard gains are just retarded.
and yes parry maybe to to easy,
I went from 50 parry to GM
in the same amount of time i went from 45 swords to 58.
that's just retarded

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king of the run on sentence.

Is gaining to hard? Gee, I wouldn't know because I HAVE NOT HAD ONE GAIN SINCE THE BETA.

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