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Dai to be taken out of staff member?
Yes  19%  [ 8 ]
No  81%  [ 35 ]
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 Post subject: STOP POSTING -Hellboy-
PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2004 8:47 pm 
STOP POSTING -Hellboy-

If you keep this up, someone will probably ban you. Take your issues to a PM to the people mentioned in my above post. Make a coherent and rational argument and they will investigate any alleged staff abuse.


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2004 8:51 pm 
UNDERTAKER wrote:YOur saying it like if Madeline was All Powerful, she is not, she has great skillz. You know give any player the skillz in her character and they will do the same... She is not all mighty... She is not all powerful, besides some staff might use their power for evil, what makes you think he is not using it for his evil doings lol.

I never said she was an unbeatable character. But power hungry in the sense that he enjoys killing for no reason is no reason for him to become staff because he could easily do that to just about anyone with Mad. Thats why I know he had to have a good reason behind this whole thing.


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2004 8:54 pm 
You are jailed until april 10 for badmouthing and mistreating staff and trying to avoid staff punishment. The invoked reasons are events Saitek didn't punish you for and which i punish you for


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2004 8:55 pm 
I agree with u, but i still think some ppl are so evil that even as a Staff, they might still take advantage of their power, now a staff is almost all powerful, how would u feel if a Staff kills u and loots u, I would feel angry cuz i cant do notting about it, i cant fight back!! 8)


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2004 8:55 pm 
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For all u that didnt know now u know! Hellboy! im hellboy Aragorn, Vengeance, Alpha yes if someone acuces me of been rude with does char tell me cuz all i always do is help noobs. Is it wrong to make a char thats a pain in the ass to players and then aother players just telling friends and friends telling other and like that it gets to the staff ears then they get a bad image about u. They go blind wont hear wut u say but wut the want it to be. Yest i had the problem with Saitek he didnt know it was me i told him to day and he came into countious how quickly things change when u know the person and know that they wouldnt do that ever. Yes i do play around alot with people but i dont really mean it but that Dai did is just wrong k that wasent right at all. Yes he does a great job but that pist the hell out of me if that had happen back when i was a noob i wouldnt be playing now witch is wut im going to do stop playing is just not worth all this shit. Be happy u dont know noobs but he has abused the power other times just ask slug lol

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Im quiting and this time i mean it for get this unfair shit like this cant go onn or u losse them all we had more noobs now theres less take care of them take care everyone bye. I still cant belive i was playing for almost 3 years u can only take so much shit then it hits the fang.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2004 8:59 pm 

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Frost Wrote about Dai:
. But power hungry in the sense that he enjoys killing for no reason is no reason for him to become staff


Frost is right... a power hungry guy who enjoys to kill for no reason cant be staff.... he cant kill his instincts to kill for no reason... so he gets carried away and does so as a staff. Typical Serial killer..for real... give it up for Frost!!!!!

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2004 8:59 pm 
Nemnoch wrote:STOP POSTING -Hellboy-

If you keep this up, someone will probably ban you. Take your issues to a PM to the people mentioned in my above post. Make a coherent and rational argument and they will investigate any alleged staff abuse.
How can someone investigate this wrong doing!!! its to late for that man!! the damage is done, i think that should have been done in a long time at the time that happened, u should have printed the page at the exact moment the kill was done.... That way u had proof, and u would have won, cuz right now is ur word against his, and guess who wins?? Dai does.


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2004 9:00 pm 
Undertaker, it can be proven. Logs are kept of what happens all the time. The investigating person would simply have go look back through them to the events in question.


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2004 9:01 pm 
Try to put yourself in their positions. Constant hassles and complaining by players, just you watch this shard might end up with 0 staff because no one can put up with anyone else's bs. Look at all the ups and downs Enzo is going through as staff for example, even though he is a Mexican feo, I wouldn't want to volunteer to take place as staff considering all the crap they have to take from players. You did something wrong, recognize it and stop being a little weiner about everything. Swallow your pride and take the punishment. Maybe if you would have done so in the first place, none of this would have happened and this wouldn't be an issue.


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2004 9:03 pm 
Jackal wrote:Frost Wrote about Dai:
. But power hungry in the sense that he enjoys killing for no reason is no reason for him to become staff


Frost is right... a power hungry guy who enjoys to kill for no reason cant be staff.... he cant kill his instincts to kill for no reason... so he gets carried away and does so as a staff. Typical Serial kill..for real
Misunderstood the point.


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2004 9:04 pm 
UNDERTAKER wrote:
Nemnoch wrote:STOP POSTING -Hellboy-

If you keep this up, someone will probably ban you. Take your issues to a PM to the people mentioned in my above post. Make a coherent and rational argument and they will investigate any alleged staff abuse.
How can someone investigate this wrong doing!!! its to late for that man!! the damage is done, i think that should have been done in a long time at the time that happened, u should have printed the page at the exact moment the kill was done.... That way u had proof, and u would have won, cuz right now is ur word against his, and guess who wins?? Dai does.

Read this site to see how easily BB can investigate staff abuse. Everything is logged and can be searched. Everything you did, everything you said and the statements/actions of the staff you had the confrontation(s) with.


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2004 9:05 pm 
Damn man if Aragon leaves man is gonna be a BIG lost for OBsidian, is like not having Tony Montana in ScarFACE man wtf, we need Aragon in the shard, he makes it better, we need playerslike him that can challenge other players as well,.... what have u rather have a player that plays everyday like aragon or a disturbed Staff that signs on once a while.... I STrongly Vote for DAI TO BE TAKEN OFF AS A STAFF MEMBER NOW!!!! IM NOT PLAYING!!!! IF Aragon leaves most of the BAl BAl BAl zEro UNITS WILL LEAVE The shard, and thatz the Biggest lost u will have in the shard... remember what im saying


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2004 9:07 pm 
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I really can't keep silent about this, even though I want to.

Alcapone, what you did was wrong.
Dai, what you did was also wrong, punishment did not fit the crime.

The reason most of this stuff can go on is because the rules for players are outdated, and the rules for staff are nonexistent word of mouth traditions, nothing concrete and written down.

You all say that staff can't put up with it. Newsflash: A good staffmember can put aside thier own emotions on a matter and look att hings objectively. This is a very hard feat to do, and since everyone is human, they blow up or get tempremental in thier job every once in a while, but that doesn't mean it's right.

This particular case in point is worthless, since both parties were in the wrong, hopefully a new set of rules will be laid down that will make everyone's job clearer and that will tell players what is and isn't legal since they can only learn by word of mouth since the rules page is outdated.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2004 9:08 pm 
I have nothing against you creating a character who's an ass to other players while staying within reasonable borders. In fact, since I've been a PK as a player in the past, I'm one of the staff members who understand best the line to draw between roleplaying, player/player interaction and the position staff should take while interacting with that kind of player. You were punished for interactions you had with a staff member, with no regards to your actions as a player

Hellboy, you say that what I did pissed the hell out of you. Try to picture yourself as staff on this one. You spend 30 minutes explaining something to a player, using extraodinary amounts of patience, and you end up having to cope with deeply hurting sarcasm. How do you feel? Why would you keep investing time when you get hurt doing so? This is why this evening's events unfolded this way. So we can turn the page on this shameful episode of mistreatment towards staff --- you're not the only one; you just happened to be the one today, and there might be another tomorrow, or in one week. I knew things would turn this way, and that there'd be a lot of shit flying around. But it's got to be made clear that staff has had to put up with shitty attitudes and will no longer take it


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