i think the best days was in t3a when armor was rare and was giving better armor, now alot of miners can make black and blood sets easier and they give now much lower than t3a, also other armors are much easier.

i think if they should give the same armor as t3a.. and make the fail rate higher as it used to be in t3a too.

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HemoKnight (Cult'S Slayer)
Hemo ( RICH PVM )
Hemomaker (Miner/smither)
Hemofisher (Order Taker)

in t3a there was no black rock or blood rock armor or silver... you could not make it.

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Hemlock [Outkastz]
Shadow [GWAR]

Hemlock wrote:in t3a there was no black rock or blood rock armor or silver... you could not make it.

we coudnt? i remember i weared a black armor in t3a and it gave me something like 200 ar

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HemoKnight (Cult'S Slayer)
Hemo ( RICH PVM )
Hemomaker (Miner/smither)
Hemofisher (Order Taker)

blood rock was broken,
black rock was rare
silver came into existence late t3a. early t4a?...

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lol im gonna give silver armor "top 10 worst obsi idea ever"

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Nightmare [Deamons]: PvM Mage
Xero: GM Blacksmith/Fishing/Bowcraft
Primus: Warrior

_Nightmare_ wrote:lol im gonna give silver armor "top 10 worst obsi idea ever"

silver should give more armor too like 50 ar or so

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HemoKnight (Cult'S Slayer)
Hemo ( RICH PVM )
Hemomaker (Miner/smither)
Hemofisher (Order Taker)

black rock never gave 200 armor..lol

the set i have is from t3a and its noowhere near that.

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Galen Soulhunter(Deamons)-Money maker
Cutler-Worker Bee
Hook(Daemons)-Mild mannered reporter/Tamer
Mr.Obvious-SUPER Crafter

w/ heater i think u can/could get to 140... dunno if thats with or without magic protection

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Thats with.

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GMBob wrote: A non-bob gm who shall remain nameless did it!

my full valorite set gives like 56 armour w/o shield ,while my black rock gives 58.

also i remember blackrock used to give that high armour but maybe 150 armour without protection

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i dont think fail rates need to be changed or things need to be made or any ore made more rare than currently it is..
however..
i think that black rock should offer quite a bit more ar than valorite
otherwise there is no point for it

and also.. heater shields are currently a waste of extra ore.. as all shields types give u the same armor rating.. so why not make a metal shield or kite.. or something else besides heater..

I think you are all insane, ore is already harder to come by then it once was i can usually mine half the amount i used to in the same amount of time, i have noticed an increase in rose/black that is found now as opposed to t3a but thats it and for getting half the amount of other ores that i used to need some sort of trade off. the only reason armor is not rare atm is because there are smiths who are selling armor at 1/3 the price that we used to sell armor at, not to mention that we all have our own smiths now as well as I believe it was Duo who pointed out.

mining fail rates are ridiculously high at the moment and blackrock armor still takes about 6 months to make mining at least an hour each day. thats for one full set...last time I calculated at least...

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Ankhesenamun
Dedo Serenity
Fisherwmn
Ruby Estella
Enchantress

well your character might be bugged, because ur not supposed to be able to fail on a armor now, u might get shabby quality armor, but never fail
same with alchemy.. i never fail a pot EVER

so dunno, maybe ur characters bugged or something

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Please stay on topic of armor and not success rates

At 100 Armor on average you null out 50 damage each time you are hit. Minimum nullification 0 per hit. Maximum nullification 100 per hit. Sometimes chance is on your side and you null out well sometimes you are shooting craps and get the low end over and over.

Armor is balanced for pvp warrior vs warrior not on pvm.
Please discuss armor in those terms because basing it on pvm would make pvp worthless.
Another option would be to widen weapon damage range for some of the hard hitting weapons (hally, pitch, ect) so there is more variable in the hit.

Just because I am posting information does not mean this will be changed. This information is to let you better understand the topic and help you give better responses to the topic.